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24 tracked calls · 16 long · 8 short · last 90d: 4L/3S
first called by Dwarkesh Podcast 8mo ago
OPEOPENAISHORT1mo ago
“OpenAI is now "leaning toward" pushing its IPO until 2027 … worried it may not find much enthusiasm”
The Kobeissi Letter

OpenAI delaying its initial public offering to 2027 proves retail investors are exhausted and shatters the dream of a quick one trillion dollar valuation.

OPEOPENAISHORT@ 92¢PREDICTION MARKET · NO LIVE PRICING
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION1mo ago
“OpenAI has 3 times the number of users as, you know, Amazon. It has 900 million chat DAUs and currently the market narrative and the market consensus is that…”
ThreadGuy

OpenAI ad business is massively underpriced; 900M users plus a $100M ad pilot points to a money printer.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT1mo ago
“It's 100% probable. Look, I'll just say it's been said before, a trillion for spend commitments. On $60 billion of revenue, and now you're going to go to the…”
All-In Podcast

OpenAI's valuation is unsupportable: a trillion in spend on $60B revenue dumped on retail bag holders.

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG1mo ago
“what was scary for OpenAI and Anthropic fighting these big companies like Google was they had these huge cash cows and to both of the management teams, credit…”
Invest Like the Best

OpenAI's improving enterprise and coding plus recursive improvement give it a top-3 model position

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT2mo ago
“I think Anthropic's now at they seem to have pulled away from Open AI, which is not surprising and something I I predicted.”
All-In Podcast

OpenAI growing 3x while Anthropic does 10x; share math says it loses ground to the faster compounder

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG2mo ago
“AI is just shifting from all-you-can-eat to pay-by-the-drink... people really like to use AI, and particularly now that one person can have 100 agents working.”
Invest Like the Best

Frontier-token economics plus closed APIs let Nvidia and labs push pricing, driving OpenAI and Anthropic past $200B ARR this year.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG2mo ago
“We hear very good things about Codex now based on GPT 5.5... Their rate of growth appears to be accelerating now because of 5.5. So, look, there's reason to…”
All-In Podcast

Sacks flags a real catalyst: GPT-5.5 is re-accelerating OpenAI's growth and Codex is taking coding share. That share-take into accelerating growth is what would mark OpenAI's private valuation higher, which the vntl:OPENAI perp tracks.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION3mo ago
“I think they're going to be fine. I think this is a multi-trillion dollar company. I think Anthropic is a multi-trillion dollar company.”
All-In Podcast

In the week OpenAI missed both user and revenue targets, Chamath stakes the contrarian case that the misses are a power/compute-supply problem, not a demand problem, and OpenAI's valuation is headed to the trillions from its ~$600B secondary mark.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG3mo ago
“Dario used to gloat about how OpenAI was being too aggressive on compute and Anthropic was more sensible in their scaling. And now Anthropic is like, fuck, we…”
Invest Like the Best

OpenAI is far from cooked; aggressive compute buying lets it serve the demand Anthropic can't.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG3mo ago
“If we allocate more resources and just double down and crush consumer, that's probably three or four trillion of enterprise value. And then if we slowly…”
All-In Podcast

Chamath stacks OpenAI's consumer business at $3-4T and its enterprise/refocus path at another $2-3T to argue for a $7-9T eventual cap, an absolute-bullish valuation call. The Ventuals vntl:OPENAI perp prices OpenAI's implied valuation directly, so going long expresses exactly that re-rate rather than a relative race against Anthropic.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION3mo ago
“I'm not gonna make that same mistake again. And, I'm delighted to invest in OpenAI and, and I'm delighted to, to help them scale. And I believe it's essential…”
Dwarkesh Podcast

Nvidia's OpenAI stake (~$30B pre-IPO) captures upside as the labs become extraordinary companies

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION3mo ago
“I'm a buyer of the shares today, notwithstanding all of the vibes that you describe.”
All-In Podcast

Against the chorus of OpenAI FUD (departures, secondary marks below the last round, the New Yorker rehash), Gerstner makes a present-tense buy call, betting the imminent Spud model and Codex ramp put OpenAI firmly back on the wave.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG4mo ago
“open AI is incredible. They're going to be enormous. Anthropic is incredible. They're going to be enormous. But AI is going to be much, much bigger than that.”
All-In Podcast

Jensen, whose chips power the entire frontier-model buildout, singles out OpenAI as the category leader headed for enormous scale. The cleanest way to express that named view on-venue is the OpenAI private-valuation perp, which prices the implied company valuation rather than a public equity.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT4mo ago
“I think we're at peak Open AI right now. I said it on the show a couple weeks ago. I think the pair trade is to to bet against every it's Chat GPT versus the…”
All-In Podcast

Jason explicitly stakes a fade: OpenAI is at peak, share is bleeding to Google, Grok, Claude and Meta, and the world takes two-thirds of the market. He even names the trade as betting against OpenAI versus the field.

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION4mo ago
“love your children equally. They're both incredible companies. Anthropic unquestionably has a lot of financial momentum... and Open AI is seeing a lot of…”
All-In Podcast

Gerstner frames OpenAI as the sibling long to his Anthropic position, both riding AI momentum into expected 2026 IPOs. The vntl:OPENAI perp lets you take that valuation-momentum view directly without waiting for the listing.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG5mo ago
“I think you're going to see a 10x in the demand for tokens, but I also think you're going to see a 90% price reduction in the cost of an output token,…”
All-In Podcast

10x token demand against 90% cheaper output tokens, with $10B revenue per gigawatt, scales the leading model lab.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONGPOSITION5mo ago
“when we first invested in OpenAI... we invested originally at the $125 billion round. So I don't think people were entirely sold on LLMs as a business model.…”
Invest Like the Best

OpenAI's do-everything strategy risks mastering nothing, but its consumer lead and coming ads engine make it a durable winner

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG6mo ago
“As a company, you either die or you live long enough to become an ads company. And so we are seeing now with OpenAI, it's happening.”
Invest Like the Best

ChatGPT combines intent and identity data, the dream of advertising; OpenAI ads business will be massive.

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG6mo ago
“What patients are going to use is a is a consumer product, chat GPT, Grock, you know, and so forth.”
All-In Podcast

Consumers dumping blood panels into ChatGPT for diagnosis: AI becomes the default health front door

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT7mo ago
“But people are trying to launder the prestige that free-training scaling has, which is almost as predictable as a physical law of the universe, to justify…”
Dwarkesh Podcast

RLVR has no reliable scaling trend, so reasoning-model moats are overhyped and OpenAI's valuation gets repriced down.

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT7mo ago
“OpenAI's issue that they're trying to solve with Stargate is because they pay a margin to people for compute. Maybe the people who run their compute are not…”
Invest Like the Best

OpenAI is a high-cost token producer with $1.4T commitments, structurally squeezed by cheaper rivals

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT7mo ago
“we're at peak Open AI right now. I said it on the show a couple weeks ago. I think the pair trade is to to bet against every it's Chat GPT versus the world,…”
All-In Podcast

Jason calls this peak OpenAI and stakes that share goes from roughly two-thirds today to about a third as Google, xAI, Anthropic and Meta split the market and bad blood from Sam Altman's deals invites everyone to attack him. The clean expression of his pair trade is shorting the OpenAI valuation, with the long-the-rest leg as context.

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAILONG8mo ago
“We may have the dominant brand and OpenAI and ChatGPT has grown faster, than anything in the history of technology. You know, I think they reached the same…”
Invest Like the Best

ChatGPT goes proactive and multimodal, monetizing far more of its billion users to become a massive company

OPEOPENAILONGIDEA · NOT YET PRICED
OPEOPENAISHORT8mo ago
“They're doing so well, but the economic impact seems to be dramatically behind. And it's almost like, it's, it's very difficult to make sense of how can the…”
Dwarkesh Podcast

Today's eval-topping models have weak generalization, so AI revenue stays far behind benchmark hype

OPEOPENAISHORTIDEA · NOT YET PRICED