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BABA

28 tracked calls · 21 long · 7 short · last 90d: 14L/5S
first called by Invest Like the Best 1y ago
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David TepperSELLMichael BurrySELL CALLS
BABBABALONG1w ago
“if you look at their cloud it's so cheap it's so cheap and it's still a very high quality cloud... alibaba is in a great position if you think the chinese ai market is going to grow like that that mon”
ThreadGuy

Alibaba dominates 38.1% of the Chinese AI cloud market and will capture the massive compute spending surge as domestic labs scale up their infrastructure.

BABBABALONG@ $109.86
$123.58+12.49%
since call Jul 24
peak +12.5%
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BABBABALONG4w ago
“this technical pressure is pushing China's leading companies down near their lows again.”
Cassandra Unchained

Chip-mania technical selling has pushed China's leading HK-listed stocks near lows; Burry adds as pressure is not fundamental

BABBABALONG@ $95.66
$123.58+29.19%
since call Jun 28
peak +29.2%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“Hong Kong stocks are falling hard as the chip narrative pulls capital from Hong Kong and pushes it into South Korea and Japan.”
Cassandra Unchained

Hang Seng selloff is technical chip-mania rotation, not fundamental — China's leading companies near lows are a buy

BABBABALONG@ $96.46
$123.58+28.12%
since call Jun 25
peak +29.1%
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BABBABASHORT1mo ago
“Today, Anthropic has directly accused the $BABA Qwen AI lab of distilling its frontier AI models.”
Serenity

Anthropic's formal IP theft accusation against Alibaba's Qwen lab opens a US regulatory and reputational front, adding downward pressure to BABA's already-stressed ADR.

BABBABASHORT@ $96.34
$123.58-28.29%
since call Jun 25
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BABBABASHORT1mo ago
“*ANTHROPIC ACCUSES ALIBABA OF 'ILLICITLY' ACCESSING AI MODELS”
tradfi news

Anthropic's accusation that Alibaba illicitly accessed its AI models adds regulatory and legal risk to BABA amid escalating US-China AI tensions.

BABBABASHORT@ $98.23
$123.58-25.81%
since call Jun 24
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“Alibaba's core chip entity behind their PPUs, T-Head, just filed a business registration change lifting registered capital from RMB 300mn to RMB 1 Bn, a >3x inc”
SemiAnalysis

T-Head's 3x capital raise and equity clean-up signals an IPO spin-off, unlocking hidden chip asset value inside Alibaba.

BABBABALONG@ $103.75
$123.58+19.12%
since call Jun 23
peak +19.2%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“as the chinese AI rerating continues, people will realise that $BABA owns more than 10% in many of the chinese frontier labs AND also supplies the T head chips”
degentrading

BABA is a deeply discounted proxy on Chinese AI as investors wake up to its 10%+ stakes in frontier labs and its T-Head chip supply role

BABBABALONG@ $107.97
$123.58+14.46%
since call Jun 22
peak +15.5%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“Alibaba / Qwen is at ~$245B market cap on ~$151B FY26 revenue = ~1.6x sales, the lowest P/S of this group but not pure AI”
Tommy

Alibaba trades at just 1.6x sales vs 1,280x for peers — the only rational Chinese AI long

BABBABALONG@ $102.68
$123.58+20.36%
since call Jun 22
peak +20.4%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“the market forces are so strong for a diffusion of each layer in the stack, finding its way to the cheapest, the more available…”
All-In Podcast · David Friedberg

As open-weight models commoditize the AI stack, value flows to the cheap-cloud open-source leader, lifting Alibaba.

BABBABALONG@ $109.08
$123.58+13.30%
since call Jun 19
peak +14.0%
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BABBABASHORT1mo ago
“China's retail sales fell -0.6% YoY in May, the largest monthly drop since the economy reopened after the pandemic in late 2022.”
The Kobeissi Letter

China retail sales turned negative for first time since post-COVID, crushing consumer demand and Alibaba's core revenue base

BABBABASHORT@ $106.58
$123.58-15.95%
since call Jun 19
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“the era when China copied Korean technology and recruited Korean talent is over”
Jukan

China's engineering ecosystem now attracts Korea's best talent, signaling a structural rise in Chinese tech competitiveness.

BABBABALONG@ $105.76
$123.58+16.85%
since call Jun 19
peak +16.8%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“The most likely solution that other countries will rely on is open weight models, which currently is generally not coming from the US.”
ThreadGuy

Anthropic's export controls force the world onto open-weight models, and Chinese open source leads, so bet on open-source AI plays

BABBABALONG@ $110.76
$123.58+11.58%
since call Jun 15
peak +11.6%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“And what are the best open-source models today? They're Chinese... The American open-source models are not as good as the Chinese open-source models.”
All-In Podcast

US AI safety limits push enterprises to Chinese open-source models, led by Alibaba's Qwen

BABBABALONG@ $113.88
$123.58+8.53%
since call Jun 13
peak +8.5%
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BABBABALONG1mo ago
“Use Anthropic and OpenAI’s best models for the really big brain stuff, but do most of the work with cheap Chinese open source models.”
Not Boring

Routing work to cheap Chinese open source models displaces premium US model spend as cost discipline returns

BABBABALONG@ $118.43
$123.58+4.36%
since call Jun 10
peak +5.5%
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BABBABASHORT1mo ago
“And also for China, with its geographical setup as it is, uh, the seas are going to be open to it only in peacetime. In wartime, this has nothing to do with…”
Dwarkesh Podcast

China's economy runs on sea lanes that close in any conflict, a permanent geographic discount on its assets.

BABBABASHORT@ $121.54
$123.58-1.68%
since call Jun 9
peak +6.3%
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BABBABALONG2mo ago
“the Chinese, of all people, the Communist Party is leading the open source movement. And the United States is centralizing.”
All-In Podcast

If the US bans open weights, the rest of the world defaults to Chinese open models; China leads open-weight

BABBABALONG@ $128.49
$123.58-3.82%
since call May 29
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BABBABASHORT2mo ago
“But look, I believe in our lifetime China will fall. I believe in our lifetime Iran will fall.”
Invest Like the Best

China is fundamentally illegitimate and will fall in our lifetime, ending up run like Taiwan.

BABBABASHORT@ $130.31
$123.58+5.16%
since call May 26
peak +13.9%
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BABBABALONG2mo ago
“Deepseek and/or Chinese AI lab takes the lead. Very realistic. 4 out of 5 is crazy, but very realistic that this happens.”
ThreadGuy

If a Chinese AI lab takes the lead (DeepSeek-style), you can finally long BABA with conviction

BABBABALONG@ $128.45
$123.58-3.79%
since call May 22
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BABBABALONG2mo ago
“they rely on maintaining scarcity under Chinese control … I don't think a deal is possible. I don't think a grand bargain is possible.”
1000x · Jonah Van Bourg

Beijing keeps Nvidia frozen out to protect scarcity, so China's own-silicon cloud champions like Alibaba win the AI build-out.

BABBABALONG@ $144.92
$123.58-14.72%
since call May 13
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BABBABASHORT3mo ago
“Manus did everything right. They even moved their entire business to Singapore to comply with US outbound investment restrictions. Their only mistake was that…”
TBPN

Beijing's fiat crackdown on AI founders chills the whole Chinese tech ecosystem and deepens decoupling, pressuring Chinese tech equity.

BABBABASHORT@ $129.37
$123.58+4.47%
since call Apr 27
peak +15.5%
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BABBABALONGPOSITION3mo ago
“Yeah. I mean, I think I'm also long a ton of, I'm long all of the Chinese, like, you know, BABA is the worst performing. BABA came out with Qwen.”
ThreadGuy

Alibaba is the most consequential AI release since Llama, hated and cheap; long the Chinese open-source labs

BABBABALONG@ $128.61
$123.58-3.91%
since call Apr 23
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BABBABALONG3mo ago
“the chip export controls have failed … China's tech sector is too sophisticated to be stopped from building powerful AI.”
TBPN

If chip controls can't stop China's AI, its frontier labs re-rate; Alibaba's Qwen is the listed proxy.

BABBABALONG@ $129.53
$123.58-4.59%
since call Apr 13
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BABBABALONG4mo ago
“We have Kimmy, we have Nimatron, and we have uh a lot of usage of Quen, Alibaba Quen. Silently under the hood.”
All-In Podcast

Alibaba's Qwen quietly racking up heavy usage under the hood at orchestration layers

BABBABALONG@ $119.08
$123.58+3.78%
since call Mar 23
peak +3.8%
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BABBABALONG4mo ago
“at some point China is able to scale past us if AI takes longer to get to certain capability levels than... the vast majority of your guests on this podcast…”
Dwarkesh Podcast

Long AI timelines give China years to scale fabs, and Alibaba is the tradable winner of domestic compute.

BABBABALONG@ $136.07
$123.58-9.18%
since call Mar 13
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BABBABASHORT4mo ago
“But China will remain isolated. So specifically relative to China, I'm still negative.”
1000x · Avi Felman

Clean Iran resolution pulls capital back to US assets and leaves China isolated, pressuring Chinese equities.

BABBABASHORT@ $133.39
$123.58+7.35%
since call Mar 11
peak +17.8%
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BABBABALONG8mo ago
“I am highly optimistic that tensions have stabilized and that market conditions are improving. And we've been underweight China for the last 5 years. We just…”
Invest Like the Best

Tensions stabilizing and cheap valuations mean China innovation is worth picking up after years underweight.

BABBABALONG@ $157.82
$123.58-21.69%
since call Nov 25
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BABBABALONG9mo ago
“Chinese companies are really capable, and China's economy has grown by an average of something like 9% over the 20 years, and what has been happening to…”
Invest Like the Best

ByteDance and Alibaba throw off huge cash but stay cheap because the Party can smite them and Taiwan risk looms.

BABBABALONG@ $162.45
$123.58-23.92%
since call Oct 16
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BABBABALONG1y ago
“when Deepseek hit and took off... Alibaba made Qwen open source. Xiaomi has a model out now... And Robin Li at Baidu had kept his model proprietary and he…”
Invest Like the Best

China going fully open-source on AI models creates a powerful self-training flywheel the US won't match.

BABBABALONG@ $120.22
$123.58+2.80%
since call Jun 10
peak +2.8%
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